In response to the 7 billion page spammer, Google PR reps responded that only a fraction of the billions of pages were actually indexed, and that there is a problem with the site: search operator. If the spammer did not have so many pages indexed, how did he achieve an Alexa rank as the 700th most popular site on the web? From where was all that traffic coming, if not Google?
Witness what happened once the domains were manually removed from the Google database:
I think that is fair evidence that these domains were well indexed and ranking for common Google searches. Enough with blaming it on the poor site: operator, OK? We know it hasn’t worked properly in quite some time. I think it is about time to retire it along with the link: operator. If you don’t wish to be forthright and show proper results (or are unable to show proper results) for these operators that you provide, why show any at all?
Yahoo!’s “linkdomain:” operator is honest, quick, and reliable; showing results that often update daily, and almost seem sorted by link power. Kudos to Yahoo! for still providing a backlink tracker. I’m also pushing their beta Mindset Search which allows you to vary your results between commercial and informational sites to a remarkably accurate degree.
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you’d think that big company reps would realize that being upfront and honest about things really is the only way. Get a little crisis and all common sense goes out the window. I think googleguy, jr. has just learned that lesson.
BS and spin don’t get very far, especially these days.
Comment by Scott Jangro 06.21.06 @ 3:41 amQuite frankly, as a public company, I really wouldn’t expect much different. Because as such, they have their owners (stockholders) to take care of. Coming out and saying…
“Umm guys, Big Daddy is busticated…”
Wouldn’t exactly have a positive effect on the shareholders value.
I think it’s pretty clear where the traffic was coming from whether or not we know the acurate page count.
Dave
Comment by CrankyDave 06.21.06 @ 5:42 amHonesty doesn’t make quick money. That’s why this guy will do it again. This was not his first attempt.
Comment by Dotan Cohen 06.21.06 @ 7:48 amI think that the best way to outsmart Google is by doing this…I mean…the quicklier you get up, the greater you fall!
Comment by Femei 06.22.06 @ 10:31 amWe shoul do that ..I mean we should take advantage of the Google “errors” and rise up!
Comment by Flori Buchete 06.22.06 @ 10:33 amI’m curious as to why you focus on one domain that caused havoc, and missed dozens if not 100’s of others that didn not?
site:lqpp78.org
site:xx78i2.org
site:mzyd0w.org
site:uds83e.org
You correctly point out that the way to do this is get 100’s of domains. How did just one outsmart Google?
Comment by DevilsAdvocate 06.22.06 @ 3:56 pmNo one is quite sure why the one domain took off in indexing (and subsequently Alexa). The t1ps2see domain is still receiving traffic since most of those other domains redirect there.
I’m sure someone will be by to sweep up those domains, but the real question is when will it be fixed permanently and not by hand?
Comment by Alex 06.22.06 @ 5:54 pmGood thinking. I do not 100% agree your opinion, but a 85% will do!
Comment by Flori Buchete 06.25.06 @ 1:48 amThey won’t be. Did you see those sites? How would a computer know that they are spam? I myself could barely tell.
Comment by Dotan 06.25.06 @ 2:09 amActually there are a few others doing this by way of another method… Take a look at Searching.com. on Alexa note the urls that the traiffc is really from.
what they have done is make agreements with many of the major Bittorrent websites and have them redirect traffic through them. bittorrent sites can not get good advertising but searching.com can, it ends up being a win win for both sides only problem things recently got rocky for them their largest partner torrentspy dropped out of their little ring. anyhow yo can see the affects of that on alexa and I hope someone with connecitons with google will look alittle deeper into this.
Thanks; I did not realize that paying off underground sites was another way to game Alexa.
Wanting to game Alexa (Searching.com) is different from the MFA sites, though. A spammer with throwaway domains would have nothing to gain from an inflated Alexa ranking. It would actually hurt his chances at profit by bringing attention to the sites. Also, this same traffic pattern jump can be witnessed across all of the junk domains, not just one.
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